More Liberal Bullshit on Climate Change

Study on warming forecasts disaster

Britain issued a sweeping report Monday on global warming, saying the Earth faces a calamity on the scale of the world wars and the Great Depression unless urgent action is taken.

Time for Right Wingers to make up some bullshit or find the one retarded scientist who is in denial of the growing evidence that yes, Virginia, human beings are capable of effecting Earth’s environment.

Do you really thing Liberals want global climate change? You think we enjoy telling the Right Wing that we have a really big and expensive problem to deal with? NO. We just have our heads a little less far up our asses and we want to work on the problem before it is catastrophic.

But then again Britain is biased.

More Liberal Bullshit on Climate Change

4 thoughts on “More Liberal Bullshit on Climate Change

  1. In regards to #1, the solar cycle is 22 years from max to max. That is very short in geological time scales. The sun has been almost constant in temperature, with slight exceptions, for billions of years.

    On #2, some right wingers (hopefully not you) talk about how cow farts are mostly responsible. Even if true (which I don’t believe) that is still a man-made source — we have large herds of cattle for human purposes. Here is a quote I found:

    Human activity has been increasing the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere (mostly carbon dioxide from combustion of coal, oil, and gas; plus a few other trace gases). There is no scientific debate on this point. Pre-industrial levels of carbon dioxide (prior to the start of the Industrial Revolution) were about 280 parts per million by volume (ppmv), and current levels are about 370 ppmv. The concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere today, has not been exceeded in the last 420,000 years, and likely not in the last 20 million years. According to the IPCC Special Report on Emission Scenarios (SRES), by the end of the 21st century, we could expect to see carbon dioxide concentrations of anywhere from 490 to 1260 ppm (75-350% above the pre-industrial concentration).

    If CO2 is up 200% on earth in the last 100 years from man-made sources, it is not credible to assume that global warming is an unrelated natural phenomena.

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    I don’t know the answer on #3, but, like I said, solar cycles are minor fluctuations on short time scales and I don’t think they are causing the changes we are seeing on Mars.

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  2. micadelic says:

    When we calculated how much warming was due to solar cycles and how much was caused by greenhouse gases, how did we know exactly how solar activity affects the climate? Seems like a pretty tricky calculation. Like, does a 5% annual increase in sunspots or solar storms, or CMEs (coronal mass ejections), equal a corresponding increase in global mean temps? I don’t think that calculus exists.
    Are there other sources of greenhouse gases besides man-made ones? If there are, what percentage are natural and what percentage are man-made? It’s my understanding that less than 3% of total greenhouse gases are man-made and many people argue it’s substantially less. So if we’re responsible for adding 3% more greenhouse gases than the earth would naturally produce and there are admittedly other factors besides greenhouse gase that are contributing, does it not make sense that if temps rose by 1 degree, our contribution to that warming would be some number less than 3/100ths of a degree?
    What about the polar regions of Mars? Is it just a coincidence that these areas are shrinking at the same time we are experiencing warming? Wouldn’t this be a pretty striking coincidence?

    These are not flip, rhetorical questions, I’m actually curious about this.

    PS – I know you know what CMEs are, some readers may not.

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  3. Wow, thanks!

    First of all, it’s not global warming that informed people are worried about, it is global climate change, meaning warming or cooling or other irreversible man-made climatic disaster.

    The solar cycle explanation is insufficient to explain the warming trends. We can calculate that and we have. According to a NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) press release, “…the solar increases do not have the ability to cause large global temperature increases…greenhouse gases are indeed playing the dominant role…”

    Yes, the sun will engulf earth in a few billion years — so no sense worrying about global climate change!

    C’mon. You guys just can’t handle scientific consensus when it interferes with your freaking ideology.

    It’s just like the evolution debate. It is probably 10,000 to 1 for scientists who agree with a theory of evolution and 10,000 to 1 for scientists who think that humans are negatively changing Earth’s climate. Luckily, that gives you guys a couple of scientists on your side. Congrats.

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  4. micadelic says:

    There’s at least 2 retarded scientists who think it’s a natural cycle. You should read their book.

    Hey, did you know they used to grow lots of wine grapes and produce lots of wine in England? This peaked sometime in the 1500s. So much so that the French wanted to put tariffs on English wine. Weird, they don’t make as much wine in England anymore, the climate’s still too cold over most of the country. Maybe if it warms up a little they can rekindle their wine industry!

    And yes, manmade global warming = manmade global cooling (remember the 70s?) = Y2K Panic = Comet Kohoutek = Killer Bees = Successful Liberal Talk Radio.

    Oops, found some more retards! Apparently an entire “crew” of them. Apparently these right wing nutjob retards think these cycles are caused by the sun and as the solar activity begins to slow down, the earth is headed for a period of cooling, which could potentially be more disasterous than some mild warming.

    To further support the theory that warming is caused by solar activity, did you know that the icecaps on Mars have been shrinking too? So, it’s either solar cycles or the Martian SUV market has been going nutso along with all those evil Martian businessmen and their CO2 spewing factories. Too bad Al Gore’s not planning a run for President of Mars, he could probably save them too!

    And one more thing, thousands, maybe millions of species have come and gone, ice ages have come and gone, the earth is in a constant state of flux controlled by forces way beyond our control. You cannot stop it. In a few billion years the sun’s gonna flame out and humans will be gone (on this planet) well before then no matter what we do anyway. Why do liberals think they can control the world and make it “safe” for everyone through legislation. Life is dangerous.

    And please, I’m a former Boy Scout, I’m all for conservation and good stewardship of the land. We should not be polluting our environment, it’s not a good thing. But draconian measures and giant government agencies and regulations to try and stop things that we cannot control are a waste of time and energy. We could better use those resources to feed people in the developing world, cure diseases, develop economies, etc.

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